Meeting 20110302

Chat log

(1:29:53 PM) vangarderen.peter: copy chat log to qubit wiki
(1:30:09 PM) vangarderen.peter: then start new chat log and notes for Archivematica meeting and post to Archivematica meetings wiki page
(1:30:50 PM) MJ Suhonos: i'd be grateful if someone can create a stub page so i know where to put the minutes (while i'm cleaning them up from my notes)
(1:31:06 PM) vangarderen.peter: MJ Suhonos: for qubit, archivematica or both?
(1:31:06 PM) david.juhasz: I can do that MJ Suhonos
(1:31:11 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: thanks
(1:31:15 PM) MJ Suhonos: thanks david
(1:31:24 PM) MJ Suhonos: vangarderen.peter:  for qubit, presumably.  whatever david comes up with 
(1:31:57 PM) david.juhasz: http://qubit-toolkit.org/wiki/index.php?title=Meeting_20110302
(1:31:59 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: can you do one for archivematica then too please? I've got a meeting page up already with a list for 2011 meetings
(1:32:29 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, in the meanwhile on to Archivematica dev
(1:32:30 PM) MJ Suhonos: should i just put the notes undera heading for "qubit" ?
(1:32:56 PM) berwin22: I've been working on the shared folder problems, haven't gotten much, if any dev done
(1:33:13 PM) david.juhasz: MJ Suhonos: three headings, dev, docs and deployment
(1:33:15 PM) david.juhasz: I can create them
(1:33:30 PM) vangarderen.peter: and then a copy of the chat log underneath that
(1:33:45 PM) MJ Suhonos: vangarderen.peter:  don't know how to get that, but i'll figure it out
(1:33:52 PM) david.juhasz: http://qubit-toolkit.org/wiki/index.php?title=Meeting_20110302
(1:33:59 PM) vangarderen.peter: hopefully it was on in your IM client
(1:34:06 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: you have a log?
(1:34:09 PM) david.juhasz: MJ Suhonos: I can post the chat log for now
(1:34:10 PM) Rachel: cheers all - I'm heading out.  See you next week!
(1:34:10 PM) Jessica  Bushey: MJ - are you using ADIUM?
(1:34:15 PM) Jessica  Bushey: Bye Rachel
(Rachel left the room. (1:34:20 PM)
(1:34:24 PM) vangarderen.peter: bye rachel. thanks for checking in!
(1:34:28 PM) berwin22: http://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/345f63b118995711?hl=en <- shared folder problem with virtualbox
(1:31:15 PM) MJ Suhonos: thanks david
(1:31:24 PM) MJ Suhonos: vangarderen.peter:  for qubit, presumably.  whatever david comes up with 
(1:31:57 PM) david.juhasz: http://qubit-toolkit.org/wiki/index.php?title=Meeting_20110302
(1:31:59 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: can you do one for archivematica then too please? I've got a meeting page up already with a list for 2011 meetings
(1:32:29 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, in the meanwhile on to Archivematica dev
(1:32:30 PM) MJ Suhonos: should i just put the notes undera heading for "qubit" ?
(1:32:56 PM) berwin22: I've been working on the shared folder problems, haven't gotten much, if any dev done
(1:33:12 PM) david.juhasz: MJ Suhonos: three headings, dev, docs and deployment
(1:33:15 PM) david.juhasz: I can create them
(1:33:29 PM) vangarderen.peter: and then a copy of the chat log underneath that
(1:33:45 PM) MJ Suhonos: vangarderen.peter:  don't know how to get that, but i'll figure it out
(1:33:52 PM) david.juhasz: http://qubit-toolkit.org/wiki/index.php?title=Meeting_20110302
(1:33:58 PM) vangarderen.peter: hopefully it was on in your IM client
(1:34:05 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: you have a log?
(1:34:09 PM) david.juhasz: MJ Suhonos: I can post the chat log for now
(1:34:10 PM) Rachel: cheers all - I'm heading out.  See you next week!
(1:34:10 PM) Jessica  Bushey: MJ - are you using ADIUM?
(1:34:14 PM) Jessica  Bushey: Bye Rachel
(1:34:24 PM) vangarderen.peter: bye rachel. thanks for checking in!
(1:34:27 PM) berwin22: http://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/345f63b118995711?hl=en <- shared folder problem with virtualbox
(1:34:43 PM) MJ Suhonos: Jessica  Bushey:  yup, think i've got it 
(1:35:00 PM) vangarderen.peter: berwin22: then Austin made call to switch to sftp
(1:35:09 PM) vangarderen.peter: as officially supported method
(1:35:29 PM) vangarderen.peter: it sounds like a good move
(1:35:35 PM) berwin22: yes, I agree
(1:35:54 PM) vangarderen.peter: great tech support on the forums this week guys.
(1:36:04 PM) berwin22: I'd rather have one method, than one for each of our distrobutions
(1:36:11 PM) vangarderen.peter: there is definitely a little spike of Archivematica interest right now
(1:36:18 PM) vangarderen.peter: a lot of people kicking the tires
(1:36:23 PM) berwin22: I can upload my r3 that has the virtualbox fix
(1:36:56 PM) Austin: berwin22: after this release maybe we can just release a vmdk.. which worrks in both vmware and virtualbox
(1:37:12 PM) Austin: no sharedfolders.. no need to release a separate version
(1:37:17 PM) berwin22: Austin, I like the sounds of that
(1:37:22 PM) vangarderen.peter: me too
(1:37:32 PM) vangarderen.peter: let's do it
(1:37:42 PM) vangarderen.peter: deployment
(1:38:01 PM) Austin: rockafella and imf have gone well
(1:38:04 PM) vangarderen.peter: Austin: rock it out with Fernando and Roberto at RAC last week
(1:38:22 PM) Austin: install has mostly been done on the first days
(1:38:37 PM) Austin: run into a few issues.. looks like mcpsqllogger dies on apostrophies
(1:38:47 PM) vangarderen.peter: had brand new server room. 20TB NetApps appliance just for us. ESX servers for archivematica ready to go. Networking green light.
(1:39:13 PM) Austin: yeah was great working with them
(1:35:08 PM) vangarderen.peter: as officially supported method
(1:35:29 PM) vangarderen.peter: it sounds like a good move
(1:35:35 PM) berwin22: yes, I agree
(1:35:54 PM) vangarderen.peter: great tech support on the forums this week guys.
(1:36:04 PM) berwin22: I'd rather have one method, than one for each of our distrobutions
(1:36:11 PM) vangarderen.peter: there is definitely a little spike of Archivematica interest right now
(1:36:18 PM) vangarderen.peter: a lot of people kicking the tires
(1:36:23 PM) berwin22: I can upload my r3 that has the virtualbox fix
(1:36:56 PM) Austin: berwin22: after this release maybe we can just release a vmdk.. which worrks in both vmware and virtualbox
(1:37:12 PM) Austin: no sharedfolders.. no need to release a separate version
(1:37:17 PM) berwin22: Austin, I like the sounds of that
(1:37:22 PM) vangarderen.peter: me too
(1:37:31 PM) vangarderen.peter: let's do it
(1:37:41 PM) vangarderen.peter: deployment
(1:38:00 PM) Austin: rockafella and imf have gone well
(1:38:03 PM) vangarderen.peter: Austin: rock it out with Fernando and Roberto at RAC last week
(1:38:22 PM) Austin: install has mostly been done on the first days
(1:38:37 PM) Austin: run into a few issues.. looks like mcpsqllogger dies on apostrophies
(1:38:47 PM) vangarderen.peter: had brand new server room. 20TB NetApps appliance just for us. ESX servers for archivematica ready to go. Networking green light.
(1:39:12 PM) Austin: yeah was great working with them
(1:39:47 PM) berwin22: so... which revision of the virtual box image should be available for download?
(r1 - doesn't support the shared folder stuff.
(r2 - problem with the nic being set to bridge to eth0 (bad)
(r3 - I can upload, but has a preset folder of /home/joseph - I'm fairly confident this wouldn't break anything
(r4 - I make the change to r3 and upload it - would take about 4 hours.
(1:39:55 PM) vangarderen.peter: only hickup was when at the last hour we juggled system between two images to get our server to a 3.5TB size server. But the boys made it 3.5GB
(1:40:39 PM) Austin: joseph that does break stuff here
(1:40:44 PM) Austin: /home/joseph^
(1:40:56 PM) Austin: *did
(1:40:57 PM) berwin22: K leaving as r1.
(1:41:10 PM) Austin: ?
(1:41:24 PM) Austin: I think I deleted r1 already
(1:41:26 PM) Austin: 
(1:41:37 PM) Austin: current one up there is r2
(1:41:38 PM) berwin22: http://archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Virtual_appliance_instructions
(We need to update this wiki with the sftp instructions
(1:41:45 PM) berwin22: I never deleted it.
(1:41:48 PM) Austin: yeah, havnt had time
(1:41:51 PM) berwin22: or updated the wiki to point to it
(1:41:56 PM) Austin: (10:41:23 AM) Austin: I think I deleted r1 already *
(1:42:03 PM) vangarderen.peter: who's gonna have time to update those docs first?
(1:42:25 PM) Austin: Im looking forward to taking a break tomorrow.. maybe if I have network in the airport today
(1:42:45 PM) vangarderen.peter: berwin22: what are you working on?
(1:43:23 PM) vangarderen.peter: it might save us some more forum questions the sooner we get that updated. requires some screenshots eh?
(1:43:57 PM) berwin22: ... at this point I think I should create r4 of the virtual box stuff, cause r1 is missing
(1:44:02 PM) berwin22: well deleted
(1:44:04 PM) Austin: yeah
(1:44:07 PM) Austin: and r2 dosnt work
(1:44:10 PM) Austin: or..
(1:44:15 PM) Austin: just explain howto use the vmdk
(1:40:57 PM) berwin22: K leaving as r1.
(1:41:10 PM) Austin: ?
(1:41:23 PM) Austin: I think I deleted r1 already
(1:41:25 PM) Austin: 
(1:41:37 PM) Austin: current one up there is r2
(1:41:38 PM) berwin22: http://archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Virtual_appliance_instructions
(We need to update this wiki with the sftp instructions
(1:41:45 PM) berwin22: I never deleted it.
(1:41:48 PM) Austin: yeah, havnt had time
(1:41:51 PM) berwin22: or updated the wiki to point to it
(1:41:56 PM) Austin: (10:41:23 AM) Austin: I think I deleted r1 already *
(1:42:02 PM) vangarderen.peter: who's gonna have time to update those docs first?
(1:42:24 PM) Austin: Im looking forward to taking a break tomorrow.. maybe if I have network in the airport today
(1:42:45 PM) vangarderen.peter: berwin22: what are you working on?
(1:43:22 PM) vangarderen.peter: it might save us some more forum questions the sooner we get that updated. requires some screenshots eh?
(1:43:56 PM) berwin22: ... at this point I think I should create r4 of the virtual box stuff, cause r1 is missing
(1:44:01 PM) berwin22: well deleted
(1:44:04 PM) Austin: yeah
(1:44:07 PM) Austin: and r2 dosnt work
(1:44:10 PM) Austin: or..
(1:44:15 PM) Austin: just explain howto use the vmdk
(1:44:38 PM) Austin: and we rename  archivematica-0.7alpha-vmware   to archivematica-0.7alpha-vmdk
(1:45:04 PM) david.juhasz: has the vmdk been tested with virtualbox?
(1:45:16 PM) berwin22: they'd both take about the same amount of time. and I know what I'm doing on the first.
(1:45:18 PM) Austin: we use the vmdk to create the virtualbox image
(1:45:27 PM) Austin: least I do
(1:45:51 PM) Austin: virtualbox image is the vmdk imported, and with the guest additions added(which are broken)
(1:46:12 PM) david.juhasz: Austin: so the answer is no? 
(1:46:21 PM) Austin: ?
(1:46:23 PM) vangarderen.peter: *confused too*
(1:46:32 PM) Austin: no.. its yes,  they are the same thing
(1:46:39 PM) vangarderen.peter: we're only going to create/support one vm format?
(1:46:46 PM) Austin: just the virtualbox image has the guest additions added and exported as ovf
(1:46:53 PM) berwin22: Austin, are you wanting the updated sources list in r4?
(1:46:58 PM) vangarderen.peter: which should work equally well with VMware and VirtualBox players?
(1:47:00 PM) Austin: sure
(1:47:10 PM) david.juhasz: Austin: right, I just think somebody should load up the vmdk in virtualbox to make sure it really, really works
(1:47:14 PM) Austin: berwin22: sure*
(1:47:22 PM) Austin: agreed
(1:47:24 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: i agree, it needs evelyn blessing
(1:47:39 PM) berwin22: Just to confirm: no anticipated problems with version clashes or anything with that sources list.
(1:48:06 PM) Austin: ?
(1:48:26 PM) Austin: not really sure what your talking about
(1:48:33 PM) vangarderen.peter: me neither
(1:48:48 PM) Austin: your talking about switching your sources.list that you use to build off a mirror to a working one?
(1:48:49 PM) berwin22: http://archivematica.org/downloads/sources.list
(1:48:49 PM) Austin: sure 
(1:49:10 PM) berwin22: that sources list is different than the one currently in the vm
(1:49:18 PM) Austin: in your vm?
(1:49:25 PM) Austin: my vm?
(1:49:34 PM) Austin: I know the ones I uploaded have my mirror
(1:46:39 PM) vangarderen.peter: we're only going to create/support one vm format?
(1:46:46 PM) Austin: just the virtualbox image has the guest additions added and exported as ovf
(1:46:52 PM) berwin22: Austin, are you wanting the updated sources list in r4?
(1:46:58 PM) vangarderen.peter: which should work equally well with VMware and VirtualBox players?
(1:47:00 PM) Austin: sure
(1:47:10 PM) david.juhasz: Austin: right, I just think somebody should load up the vmdk in virtualbox to make sure it really, really works
(1:47:14 PM) Austin: berwin22: sure*
(1:47:22 PM) Austin: agreed
(1:47:23 PM) vangarderen.peter: david.juhasz: i agree, it needs evelyn blessing
(1:47:38 PM) berwin22: Just to confirm: no anticipated problems with version clashes or anything with that sources list.
(1:48:06 PM) Austin: ?
(1:48:25 PM) Austin: not really sure what your talking about
(1:48:33 PM) vangarderen.peter: me neither
(1:48:48 PM) Austin: your talking about switching your sources.list that you use to build off a mirror to a working one?
(1:48:49 PM) berwin22: http://archivematica.org/downloads/sources.list
(1:48:49 PM) Austin: sure 
(1:49:10 PM) berwin22: that sources list is different than the one currently in the vm
(1:49:18 PM) Austin: in your vm?
(1:49:24 PM) Austin: my vm?
(1:49:34 PM) Austin: I know the ones I uploaded have my mirror
(1:50:26 PM) berwin22: yeah. are we wanting to use the sources list, with your mirror in it, to prevent *bad* updates, or the http://archivematica.org/downloads/sources.list file?
(1:50:45 PM) Austin: thats why I left it in.. to prevent bad updates..
(1:50:49 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, can discuss further after meeting
(1:50:49 PM) Austin: but useful if people want ssh
(1:50:52 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, any more dev or deployment to report on?
(1:51:18 PM) vangarderen.peter: Austin: ingested a 1GB .pst file at IMF today?
(1:51:57 PM) Austin: yeah
(1:52:02 PM) Austin: worked great
(1:52:18 PM) vangarderen.peter: that's great
(1:52:23 PM) vangarderen.peter: 4GB vms eh?
(1:52:25 PM) Austin: noticed readpst is threaded.. so the more available CPUs the better
(1:52:27 PM) Austin: yeah..
(1:52:35 PM) Austin: but maxed out around 600mb of ram
(1:53:03 PM) vangarderen.peter: each vm would max out at 600mb but you could add more vm processors and it would thread them?
(1:53:29 PM) Austin: nah.. just the running vm was at 600mb of ram..
(1:53:37 PM) Austin: also had firefox and thunar etc etc open
(1:53:39 PM) vangarderen.peter: ah k
(1:53:41 PM) vangarderen.peter: docs?
(1:53:43 PM) vangarderen.peter: Evelyn has being doing lots of project documentation work for RAC and IMF on-site work these past two weeks.
(1:49:34 PM) Austin: I know the ones I uploaded have my mirror
(1:50:25 PM) berwin22: yeah. are we wanting to use the sources list, with your mirror in it, to prevent *bad* updates, or the http://archivematica.org/downloads/sources.list file?
(1:50:45 PM) Austin: thats why I left it in.. to prevent bad updates..
(1:50:49 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, can discuss further after meeting
(1:50:49 PM) Austin: but useful if people want ssh
(1:50:52 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, any more dev or deployment to report on?
(1:51:17 PM) vangarderen.peter: Austin: ingested a 1GB .pst file at IMF today?
(1:51:57 PM) Austin: yeah
(1:52:02 PM) Austin: worked great
(1:52:18 PM) vangarderen.peter: that's great
(1:52:23 PM) vangarderen.peter: 4GB vms eh?
(1:52:25 PM) Austin: noticed readpst is threaded.. so the more available CPUs the better
(1:52:27 PM) Austin: yeah..
(1:52:34 PM) Austin: but maxed out around 600mb of ram
(1:53:03 PM) vangarderen.peter: each vm would max out at 600mb but you could add more vm processors and it would thread them?
(1:53:29 PM) Austin: nah.. just the running vm was at 600mb of ram..
(1:53:36 PM) Austin: also had firefox and thunar etc etc open
(1:53:38 PM) vangarderen.peter: ah k
(1:53:41 PM) vangarderen.peter: docs?
(1:53:42 PM) vangarderen.peter: Evelyn has being doing lots of project documentation work for RAC and IMF on-site work these past two weeks.
(1:55:00 PM) vangarderen.peter: lots of installation tech support on the forums this week and other architecture discussions
(1:55:43 PM) vangarderen.peter: great support from Artefactual. got lots of compliments about our fast, friendly responses on the discussion list. It makes a big impression.
(1:56:30 PM) MJ Suhonos: nice to hear 
(1:56:36 PM) Jessica  Bushey: Awesome!
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(1:57:20 PM) vangarderen.peter: okay, i'm gonna run if there's nothing else guys