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* Austin added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases | * Austin added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases | ||
* Austin dropped the 0.96 clamav backport | * Austin dropped the 0.96 clamav backport | ||
| + | * Austin is still working on Fiwalk, he's having some trouble with libraries | ||
| + | * Austin is working with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues | ||
| + | * Austin is going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages | ||
| + | * Austin added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts | ||
| + | * As a proof of concept, Joseph got PDFs to normalize on PRONOM id | ||
| + | ** However, this may be problematic because FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF | ||
== Documentation == | == Documentation == | ||
| + | * Evelyn added http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output | ||
| + | * Evelyn is working on mocking up different kinds of reports to add to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting | ||
| + | * Misty de Meo added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list at https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en, and another user is planning to follow up | ||
== Deployment == | == Deployment == | ||
| + | * Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting an uploadDIP problem at IMF, due mainly to lack of remote access | ||
| + | ** He has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now | ||
== Chat log == | == Chat log == | ||
| + | <pre> | ||
| + | (10:30:55 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin | ||
| + | (10:31:06 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' | ||
| + | is quite the rabbit hole | ||
| + | (10:28:18 AM) Sevein: and even more in some circunstances. but we already knew this. | ||
| + | (10:28:29 AM) Sevein: keep lft/rgt values updates is very slow. | ||
| + | (10:28:34 AM) epmclellan: Jessica Bushey: can't really think of anything | ||
| + | (10:28:35 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: Really?!? | ||
| + | (10:28:40 AM) david.juhasz: I didn't know that | ||
| + | (10:29:02 AM) Sevein: david.juhasz: yes, I discovered it as part of the LAC work | ||
| + | (10:29:20 AM) Sevein: but I think we can't get rid of that for 1.2 | ||
| + | (10:29:25 AM) Jessica Bushey: Do you want me to add that note to the Testing section Sevein? | ||
| + | (10:29:28 AM) Sevein: maybe include it as part of a future design | ||
| + | (10:29:36 AM) Jessica Bushey: ok. | ||
| + | (10:29:43 AM) Sevein: Jessica Bushey: ok | ||
| + | (10:29:53 AM) Sevein: hehe that wasn't a response to your question | ||
| + | (10:30:07 AM) Jessica Bushey: Taking notes is confusing…. :) | ||
| + | (10:30:20 AM) david.juhasz: amen to that :) | ||
| + | (10:30:39 AM) david.juhasz: Archivematica! | ||
| + | (10:30:41 AM) Jessica Bushey: Meeting over. Evelyn you are ON! Go Archivematica Team Go! | ||
| + | (10:30:47 AM) epmclellan: oh boy! | ||
| + | (10:30:54 AM) david.juhasz: Rah rah, sis boom bah | ||
| + | (10:31:00 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin | ||
| + | (10:31:11 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' | ||
| + | is quite the rabbit hole | ||
| + | (10:31:57 AM) Austin: finished up imf deployment diagram | ||
| + | (10:32:15 AM) Austin: added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases, | ||
| + | (10:32:27 AM) Austin: also.. Im dropping the 0.96 clamav backport I built | ||
| + | (10:32:41 AM) Sevein: berwin22: "rabiit hole" == difficult? | ||
| + | (10:33:05 AM) Austin: Sevein: you had some ideas on this a while ago, maybe? | ||
| + | (10:33:19 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: rabbit hole means that you keep digging and the hole keeps going on... and on... and on | ||
| + | (10:33:22 AM) Sevein: on listening to UNIX signals? | ||
| + | (10:33:28 AM) berwin22: I've been trying to get it all worked out. Still having problems where it looks like it's having errors when a child thread tries to exit. Needs more testing, and consideration of creating a custom class derived from server.service | ||
| + | (10:33:29 AM) Austin: Sevein: yeah | ||
| + | (10:33:49 AM) Sevein: I have never done it, sorry | ||
| + | (10:34:12 AM) Sevein: I guess that it would be possible if your main is running under a try / except block? | ||
| + | (10:34:26 AM) Sevein: like the KeyInterrupt exception when you run the main code | ||
| + | (10:34:55 AM) Sevein: no idea :( | ||
| + | (10:35:14 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. | ||
| + | (10:35:27 AM) Sevein: I see | ||
| + | (10:36:26 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple | ||
| + | (10:30:47 AM) epmclellan: oh boy! | ||
| + | (10:30:54 AM) david.juhasz: Rah rah, sis boom bah | ||
| + | (10:31:00 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin | ||
| + | (10:31:11 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' | ||
| + | is quite the rabbit hole | ||
| + | (10:32:02 AM) Austin: finished up imf deployment diagram | ||
| + | (10:32:20 AM) Austin: added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases, | ||
| + | (10:32:32 AM) Austin: also.. Im dropping the 0.96 clamav backport I built | ||
| + | (10:32:46 AM) Sevein: berwin22: "rabiit hole" == difficult? | ||
| + | (10:33:10 AM) Austin: Sevein: you had some ideas on this a while ago, maybe? | ||
| + | (10:33:24 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: rabbit hole means that you keep digging and the hole keeps going on... and on... and on | ||
| + | (10:33:27 AM) Sevein: on listening to UNIX signals? | ||
| + | (10:33:33 AM) berwin22: I've been trying to get it all worked out. Still having problems where it looks like it's having errors when a child thread tries to exit. Needs more testing, and consideration of creating a custom class derived from server.service | ||
| + | (10:33:34 AM) Austin: Sevein: yeah | ||
| + | (10:33:54 AM) Sevein: I have never done it, sorry | ||
| + | (10:34:17 AM) Sevein: I guess that it would be possible if your main is running under a try / except block? | ||
| + | (10:34:31 AM) Sevein: like the KeyInterrupt exception when you run the main code | ||
| + | (10:35:00 AM) Sevein: no idea :( | ||
| + | (10:35:19 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. | ||
| + | (10:35:32 AM) Sevein: I see | ||
| + | (10:36:31 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple | ||
| + | (10:38:14 AM) epmclellan: other dev news? | ||
| + | (10:38:16 AM) Austin: berwin22: have you asked in #twsited on freenode? | ||
| + | (10:38:22 AM) Austin: played with fiwalk, having trouble with some libraries.. going to work on this more today | ||
| + | (10:38:35 AM) berwin22: yes, the log is in the issue | ||
| + | (10:39:02 AM) Austin: played with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues | ||
| + | (10:39:12 AM) Austin: going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages.. | ||
| + | (10:39:33 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts | ||
| + | (10:40:06 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id | ||
| + | (10:40:29 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing | ||
| + | (10:40:38 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept | ||
| + | (10:40:41 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF | ||
| + | (10:40:49 AM) epmclellan: ok | ||
| + | (10:41:14 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability | ||
| + | (10:41:24 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output | ||
| + | (10:41:43 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day | ||
| + | (10:41:47 AM) epmclellan: bye | ||
| + | (10:41:50 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein | ||
| + | (10:35:19 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. | ||
| + | (10:35:32 AM) Sevein: I see | ||
| + | (10:36:31 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple | ||
| + | (10:38:19 AM) epmclellan: other dev news? | ||
| + | (10:38:21 AM) Austin: berwin22: have you asked in #twsited on freenode? | ||
| + | (10:38:27 AM) Austin: played with fiwalk, having trouble with some libraries.. going to work on this more today | ||
| + | (10:38:40 AM) berwin22: yes, the log is in the issue | ||
| + | (10:39:07 AM) Austin: played with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues | ||
| + | (10:39:17 AM) Austin: going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages.. | ||
| + | (10:39:38 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts | ||
| + | (10:40:11 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id | ||
| + | (10:40:34 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing | ||
| + | (10:40:43 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept | ||
| + | (10:40:46 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF | ||
| + | (10:40:54 AM) epmclellan: ok | ||
| + | (10:41:19 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability | ||
| + | (10:41:29 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output | ||
| + | (10:41:48 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day | ||
| + | (10:41:52 AM) epmclellan: bye | ||
| + | (10:41:55 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein | ||
| + | (10:44:40 AM) epmclellan: today I'm going to work on mocking up different kinds of reports | ||
| + | (10:44:48 AM) epmclellan: i.e. normalization reports | ||
| + | (10:44:48 AM) ***david.juhasz wonders if he lets the archivematica tide wash over him, will he eventually grok it through osmosis? | ||
| + | (10:44:58 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me | ||
| + | (10:45:07 AM) epmclellan: :) | ||
| + | (10:45:41 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting | ||
| + | (10:45:46 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" | ||
| + | (10:46:12 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday | ||
| + | (10:46:31 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think | ||
| + | (10:39:38 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts | ||
| + | (10:40:11 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id | ||
| + | (10:40:34 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing | ||
| + | (10:40:43 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept | ||
| + | (10:40:46 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF | ||
| + | (10:40:54 AM) epmclellan: ok | ||
| + | (10:41:19 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability | ||
| + | (10:41:29 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output | ||
| + | (10:41:48 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day | ||
| + | (10:41:52 AM) epmclellan: bye | ||
| + | (10:41:55 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein | ||
| + | (10:44:45 AM) epmclellan: today I'm going to work on mocking up different kinds of reports | ||
| + | (10:44:53 AM) epmclellan: i.e. normalization reports | ||
| + | (10:44:53 AM) ***david.juhasz wonders if he lets the archivematica tide wash over him, will he eventually grok it through osmosis? | ||
| + | (10:45:03 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me | ||
| + | (10:45:12 AM) epmclellan: :) | ||
| + | (10:45:46 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting | ||
| + | (10:45:51 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" | ||
| + | (10:46:17 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday | ||
| + | (10:46:36 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think | ||
| + | (10:47:09 AM) epmclellan: re deployment | ||
| + | (10:47:24 AM) epmclellan: Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting and uploadDIP problem at IMF | ||
| + | (10:47:30 AM) epmclellan: due mainly to lack of remote access | ||
| + | (10:48:00 AM) epmclellan: he has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now | ||
| + | (10:49:48 AM) epmclellan: Misty: you added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list | ||
| + | (10:49:59 AM) epmclellan: https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en | ||
| + | (10:50:08 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, that looked very in-depth! | ||
| + | (10:50:32 AM) epmclellan: and exciting, it offers the possibility of wrapping lossless JP2 images in an MXF wrapper | ||
| + | (10:50:40 AM) epmclellan: along with an LPCM audio stream | ||
| + | (10:50:48 AM) epmclellan: which, take my word for it, would be cool | ||
| + | (10:51:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: Cool! | ||
| + | (10:51:35 AM) epmclellan: It would essentially be Motion JPEG 2000 video | ||
| + | (10:51:35 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, it sounds.... uhm, coool! | ||
| + | (10:51:42 AM) Jessica Bushey: Excellent | ||
| + | (10:45:03 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me | ||
| + | (10:45:12 AM) epmclellan: :) | ||
| + | (10:45:46 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting | ||
| + | (10:45:51 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" | ||
| + | (10:46:17 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday | ||
| + | (10:46:36 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think | ||
| + | (10:47:14 AM) epmclellan: re deployment | ||
| + | (10:47:29 AM) epmclellan: Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting and uploadDIP problem at IMF | ||
| + | (10:47:35 AM) epmclellan: due mainly to lack of remote access | ||
| + | (10:48:05 AM) epmclellan: he has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now | ||
| + | (10:49:53 AM) epmclellan: Misty: you added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list | ||
| + | (10:50:04 AM) epmclellan: https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en | ||
| + | (10:50:13 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, that looked very in-depth! | ||
| + | (10:50:37 AM) epmclellan: and exciting, it offers the possibility of wrapping lossless JP2 images in an MXF wrapper | ||
| + | (10:50:45 AM) epmclellan: along with an LPCM audio stream | ||
| + | (10:50:53 AM) epmclellan: which, take my word for it, would be cool | ||
| + | (10:51:26 AM) Jessica Bushey: Cool! | ||
| + | (10:51:40 AM) epmclellan: It would essentially be Motion JPEG 2000 video | ||
| + | (10:51:40 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, it sounds.... uhm, coool! | ||
| + | (10:51:47 AM) Jessica Bushey: Excellent | ||
| + | (10:52:01 AM) epmclellan: and another user in Newfoundland is going to test it | ||
| + | (10:52:13 AM) Jessica Bushey: Sweet | ||
| + | (10:52:17 AM) david.juhasz: Wasn't there issues around Jpeg 2000 for preservation format? | ||
| + | (10:52:32 AM) epmclellan: yes | ||
| + | (10:52:54 AM) epmclellan: but wrapped in MXF it could be a very good preservation format | ||
| + | (10:52:54 AM) david.juhasz: <-- trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about | ||
| + | (10:53:10 AM) david.juhasz: coo | ||
| + | (10:53:11 AM) epmclellan: we use TIFF for still images, but we could also use JPEG 2000 | ||
| + | (10:53:20 AM) Jessica Bushey: hmm... | ||
| + | (10:53:33 AM) epmclellan: lossless JPEG 2000 | ||
| + | (10:53:47 AM) epmclellan: we'd like to make it a configurable option at some point | ||
| + | (10:54:02 AM) epmclellan: Jessica Bushey: | ||
| + | (10:54:06 AM) Jessica Bushey: Yes lossless JPEG 2000 specification is built around TIFF 6.0 I think | ||
| + | (10:54:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: epmclellan: yes EV | ||
| + | (10:54:27 AM) epmclellan: sorry | ||
| + | (10:54:32 AM) epmclellan: typed something, then deleted etc | ||
| + | (10:54:45 AM) epmclellan: anyway, lossless JPEG 2000 has many good features | ||
| + | (10:54:52 AM) epmclellan: but in general there is a lack of tool support | ||
| + | (10:55:04 AM) epmclellan: uptake has not been as enthusiastic as some people thought | ||
| + | (10:55:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: No never has… but that is changing | ||
| + | (10:55:22 AM) epmclellan: but one benefit is that they are smaller than lossless TIFFs | ||
| + | (10:55:26 AM) epmclellan: yes, I think so | ||
| + | (10:55:32 AM) Jessica Bushey: much smaller | ||
| + | (10:55:41 AM) epmclellan: that matters a lot to some institutions | ||
| + | (10:55:51 AM) Jessica Bushey: especially with massive holdings | ||
| + | (10:56:05 AM) epmclellan: I had some trouble converting multiple image formats to JP2 using ImageMagick | ||
| + | (10:56:35 AM) epmclellan: anyway... I think our meeting is probably finis | ||
| + | (10:56:50 AM) Jessica Bushey: I've never used Image Magick. Most software programs have yet to embrace JP2. | ||
| + | (10:56:58 AM) Jessica Bushey: Ok. finis. | ||
| + | </pre> | ||
| + | [[Category:meetings]] | ||
Latest revision as of 14:27, 21 September 2011
Development[edit]
- Joseph is working on Issue 292
- He is still having problems where it looks like it's having errors when a child thread tries to exit. Needs more testing, and consideration of creating a custom class derived from server.service
- Austin added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases
- Austin dropped the 0.96 clamav backport
- Austin is still working on Fiwalk, he's having some trouble with libraries
- Austin is working with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues
- Austin is going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages
- Austin added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts
- As a proof of concept, Joseph got PDFs to normalize on PRONOM id
- However, this may be problematic because FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF
Documentation[edit]
- Evelyn added http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output
- Evelyn is working on mocking up different kinds of reports to add to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting
- Misty de Meo added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list at https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en, and another user is planning to follow up
Deployment[edit]
- Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting an uploadDIP problem at IMF, due mainly to lack of remote access
- He has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now
Chat log[edit]
(10:30:55 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin (10:31:06 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' is quite the rabbit hole (10:28:18 AM) Sevein: and even more in some circunstances. but we already knew this. (10:28:29 AM) Sevein: keep lft/rgt values updates is very slow. (10:28:34 AM) epmclellan: Jessica Bushey: can't really think of anything (10:28:35 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: Really?!? (10:28:40 AM) david.juhasz: I didn't know that (10:29:02 AM) Sevein: david.juhasz: yes, I discovered it as part of the LAC work (10:29:20 AM) Sevein: but I think we can't get rid of that for 1.2 (10:29:25 AM) Jessica Bushey: Do you want me to add that note to the Testing section Sevein? (10:29:28 AM) Sevein: maybe include it as part of a future design (10:29:36 AM) Jessica Bushey: ok. (10:29:43 AM) Sevein: Jessica Bushey: ok (10:29:53 AM) Sevein: hehe that wasn't a response to your question (10:30:07 AM) Jessica Bushey: Taking notes is confusing…. :) (10:30:20 AM) david.juhasz: amen to that :) (10:30:39 AM) david.juhasz: Archivematica! (10:30:41 AM) Jessica Bushey: Meeting over. Evelyn you are ON! Go Archivematica Team Go! (10:30:47 AM) epmclellan: oh boy! (10:30:54 AM) david.juhasz: Rah rah, sis boom bah (10:31:00 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin (10:31:11 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' is quite the rabbit hole (10:31:57 AM) Austin: finished up imf deployment diagram (10:32:15 AM) Austin: added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases, (10:32:27 AM) Austin: also.. Im dropping the 0.96 clamav backport I built (10:32:41 AM) Sevein: berwin22: "rabiit hole" == difficult? (10:33:05 AM) Austin: Sevein: you had some ideas on this a while ago, maybe? (10:33:19 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: rabbit hole means that you keep digging and the hole keeps going on... and on... and on (10:33:22 AM) Sevein: on listening to UNIX signals? (10:33:28 AM) berwin22: I've been trying to get it all worked out. Still having problems where it looks like it's having errors when a child thread tries to exit. Needs more testing, and consideration of creating a custom class derived from server.service (10:33:29 AM) Austin: Sevein: yeah (10:33:49 AM) Sevein: I have never done it, sorry (10:34:12 AM) Sevein: I guess that it would be possible if your main is running under a try / except block? (10:34:26 AM) Sevein: like the KeyInterrupt exception when you run the main code (10:34:55 AM) Sevein: no idea :( (10:35:14 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. (10:35:27 AM) Sevein: I see (10:36:26 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple (10:30:47 AM) epmclellan: oh boy! (10:30:54 AM) david.juhasz: Rah rah, sis boom bah (10:31:00 AM) epmclellan: calling berwin22 and Austin (10:31:11 AM) berwin22: Issue 478 <http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=478>:Enable shutdown of MCP server using 'kill' and/or 'ctrl-c' is quite the rabbit hole (10:32:02 AM) Austin: finished up imf deployment diagram (10:32:20 AM) Austin: added clamav current ppa (http://code.google.com/p/archivematica/issues/detail?id=292#c6), this repo attempts to keep up to date with clamav releases, (10:32:32 AM) Austin: also.. Im dropping the 0.96 clamav backport I built (10:32:46 AM) Sevein: berwin22: "rabiit hole" == difficult? (10:33:10 AM) Austin: Sevein: you had some ideas on this a while ago, maybe? (10:33:24 AM) david.juhasz: Sevein: rabbit hole means that you keep digging and the hole keeps going on... and on... and on (10:33:27 AM) Sevein: on listening to UNIX signals? (10:33:33 AM) berwin22: I've been trying to get it all worked out. Still having problems where it looks like it's having errors when a child thread tries to exit. Needs more testing, and consideration of creating a custom class derived from server.service (10:33:34 AM) Austin: Sevein: yeah (10:33:54 AM) Sevein: I have never done it, sorry (10:34:17 AM) Sevein: I guess that it would be possible if your main is running under a try / except block? (10:34:31 AM) Sevein: like the KeyInterrupt exception when you run the main code (10:35:00 AM) Sevein: no idea :( (10:35:19 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. (10:35:32 AM) Sevein: I see (10:36:31 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple (10:38:14 AM) epmclellan: other dev news? (10:38:16 AM) Austin: berwin22: have you asked in #twsited on freenode? (10:38:22 AM) Austin: played with fiwalk, having trouble with some libraries.. going to work on this more today (10:38:35 AM) berwin22: yes, the log is in the issue (10:39:02 AM) Austin: played with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues (10:39:12 AM) Austin: going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages.. (10:39:33 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts (10:40:06 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id (10:40:29 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing (10:40:38 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept (10:40:41 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF (10:40:49 AM) epmclellan: ok (10:41:14 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability (10:41:24 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output (10:41:43 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day (10:41:47 AM) epmclellan: bye (10:41:50 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein (10:35:19 AM) berwin22: that would work in normal python, but twisted is another game. (10:35:32 AM) Sevein: I see (10:36:31 AM) berwin22: I have a decent idea of where this is all going, but it feels like a considerable amount of time for something so simple (10:38:19 AM) epmclellan: other dev news? (10:38:21 AM) Austin: berwin22: have you asked in #twsited on freenode? (10:38:27 AM) Austin: played with fiwalk, having trouble with some libraries.. going to work on this more today (10:38:40 AM) berwin22: yes, the log is in the issue (10:39:07 AM) Austin: played with curators workbench, got x86 packages working in archivematica.. amd64 is still having issues (10:39:17 AM) Austin: going to look at maven repo helper to help build cleaner packages.. (10:39:38 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts (10:40:11 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id (10:40:34 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing (10:40:43 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept (10:40:46 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF (10:40:54 AM) epmclellan: ok (10:41:19 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability (10:41:29 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output (10:41:48 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day (10:41:52 AM) epmclellan: bye (10:41:55 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein (10:44:40 AM) epmclellan: today I'm going to work on mocking up different kinds of reports (10:44:48 AM) epmclellan: i.e. normalization reports (10:44:48 AM) ***david.juhasz wonders if he lets the archivematica tide wash over him, will he eventually grok it through osmosis? (10:44:58 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me (10:45:07 AM) epmclellan: :) (10:45:41 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting (10:45:46 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" (10:46:12 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday (10:46:31 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think (10:39:38 AM) Austin: added transcoder db to the debian package, and included it for db creation in the vm-environment scripts (10:40:11 AM) berwin22: pdf's are normalized based on their pronom id (10:40:34 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: that might not be a good thing (10:40:43 AM) berwin22: it was a proof of concept (10:40:46 AM) epmclellan: since FITS misidentifies AI files as PDF (10:40:54 AM) epmclellan: ok (10:41:19 AM) epmclellan: On that topic, I've been working on testing FITS output for file format identification reliability (10:41:29 AM) epmclellan: http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Normalizing_based_on_FITS_output (10:41:48 AM) Sevein: sorry I have to go now! have a nice day (10:41:52 AM) epmclellan: bye (10:41:55 AM) david.juhasz: bye Sevein (10:44:45 AM) epmclellan: today I'm going to work on mocking up different kinds of reports (10:44:53 AM) epmclellan: i.e. normalization reports (10:44:53 AM) ***david.juhasz wonders if he lets the archivematica tide wash over him, will he eventually grok it through osmosis? (10:45:03 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me (10:45:12 AM) epmclellan: :) (10:45:46 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting (10:45:51 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" (10:46:17 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday (10:46:36 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think (10:47:09 AM) epmclellan: re deployment (10:47:24 AM) epmclellan: Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting and uploadDIP problem at IMF (10:47:30 AM) epmclellan: due mainly to lack of remote access (10:48:00 AM) epmclellan: he has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now (10:49:48 AM) epmclellan: Misty: you added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list (10:49:59 AM) epmclellan: https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en (10:50:08 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, that looked very in-depth! (10:50:32 AM) epmclellan: and exciting, it offers the possibility of wrapping lossless JP2 images in an MXF wrapper (10:50:40 AM) epmclellan: along with an LPCM audio stream (10:50:48 AM) epmclellan: which, take my word for it, would be cool (10:51:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: Cool! (10:51:35 AM) epmclellan: It would essentially be Motion JPEG 2000 video (10:51:35 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, it sounds.... uhm, coool! (10:51:42 AM) Jessica Bushey: Excellent (10:45:03 AM) epmclellan: well, that's never worked for me (10:45:12 AM) epmclellan: :) (10:45:46 AM) epmclellan: will add report mockups to http://www.archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Reporting (10:45:51 AM) david.juhasz: okay, i'll just keep going "mmmhmm" (10:46:17 AM) epmclellan: we have an Archivematica dev meeting scheduled for Friday (10:46:36 AM) epmclellan: we'll go over upcoming development then, especially re reports, I think (10:47:14 AM) epmclellan: re deployment (10:47:29 AM) epmclellan: Jesus is having difficulty trouble-shooting and uploadDIP problem at IMF (10:47:35 AM) epmclellan: due mainly to lack of remote access (10:48:05 AM) epmclellan: he has asked for an Apache error log, that's where it stands now (10:49:53 AM) epmclellan: Misty: you added a great post to the Archivematica discussion list (10:50:04 AM) epmclellan: https://groups.google.com/group/archivematica/browse_thread/thread/267a008ac423b820?hl=en (10:50:13 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, that looked very in-depth! (10:50:37 AM) epmclellan: and exciting, it offers the possibility of wrapping lossless JP2 images in an MXF wrapper (10:50:45 AM) epmclellan: along with an LPCM audio stream (10:50:53 AM) epmclellan: which, take my word for it, would be cool (10:51:26 AM) Jessica Bushey: Cool! (10:51:40 AM) epmclellan: It would essentially be Motion JPEG 2000 video (10:51:40 AM) david.juhasz: yeah, it sounds.... uhm, coool! (10:51:47 AM) Jessica Bushey: Excellent (10:52:01 AM) epmclellan: and another user in Newfoundland is going to test it (10:52:13 AM) Jessica Bushey: Sweet (10:52:17 AM) david.juhasz: Wasn't there issues around Jpeg 2000 for preservation format? (10:52:32 AM) epmclellan: yes (10:52:54 AM) epmclellan: but wrapped in MXF it could be a very good preservation format (10:52:54 AM) david.juhasz: <-- trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about (10:53:10 AM) david.juhasz: coo (10:53:11 AM) epmclellan: we use TIFF for still images, but we could also use JPEG 2000 (10:53:20 AM) Jessica Bushey: hmm... (10:53:33 AM) epmclellan: lossless JPEG 2000 (10:53:47 AM) epmclellan: we'd like to make it a configurable option at some point (10:54:02 AM) epmclellan: Jessica Bushey: (10:54:06 AM) Jessica Bushey: Yes lossless JPEG 2000 specification is built around TIFF 6.0 I think (10:54:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: epmclellan: yes EV (10:54:27 AM) epmclellan: sorry (10:54:32 AM) epmclellan: typed something, then deleted etc (10:54:45 AM) epmclellan: anyway, lossless JPEG 2000 has many good features (10:54:52 AM) epmclellan: but in general there is a lack of tool support (10:55:04 AM) epmclellan: uptake has not been as enthusiastic as some people thought (10:55:21 AM) Jessica Bushey: No never has… but that is changing (10:55:22 AM) epmclellan: but one benefit is that they are smaller than lossless TIFFs (10:55:26 AM) epmclellan: yes, I think so (10:55:32 AM) Jessica Bushey: much smaller (10:55:41 AM) epmclellan: that matters a lot to some institutions (10:55:51 AM) Jessica Bushey: especially with massive holdings (10:56:05 AM) epmclellan: I had some trouble converting multiple image formats to JP2 using ImageMagick (10:56:35 AM) epmclellan: anyway... I think our meeting is probably finis (10:56:50 AM) Jessica Bushey: I've never used Image Magick. Most software programs have yet to embrace JP2. (10:56:58 AM) Jessica Bushey: Ok. finis.