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(10:39:33 AM) epmclellan: dev news?
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(10:39:50 AM) courtney: pretty awesome dev vid by joseph
 
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(10:40:01 AM) epmclellan: thanks for doing that, berwin22
 
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(10:40:03 AM) mcantelon: Yeah, that is super useful documentation
 
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(10:40:23 AM) berwin22: dev null - none from me.
 
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(10:40:31 AM) courtney: i will add to soon-to-be reworked documentation for devs on wiki
 
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(10:40:50 AM) epmclellan: berwin22: all cva stuff etc?
 
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(10:41:11 AM) berwin22: that would be support, not dev
 
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(10:41:17 AM) epmclellan: right
 
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(10:41:28 AM) epmclellan: I meant it's taking up all your time
 
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(10:41:42 AM) peterVG: dev vid?
 
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(10:41:59 AM) berwin22: yeah. support, testing, documentation, is taking up most my time
 
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(10:42:10 AM) berwin22: dev: I've updated my dev machine with 12.04
 
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(10:42:22 AM) berwin22: ubuntu 12.04
 
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(10:42:33 AM) berwin22: We're planning on releasing the next archivematica on it.
 
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(10:42:46 AM) epmclellan: peterVG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haotj_NlbX0&feature=youtu.be
 
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(10:42:51 AM) berwin22: I did an update, not a re-install. I think that was a mistake
 
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(10:43:17 AM) ARTi: xubuntu 12.04 looks nice,  berwin22 yeah Ive gotten farther from a clean install
 
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(10:43:20 AM) peterVG: berwin22: nice!
 
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(10:43:22 AM) peterVG: re: vid
 
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(10:43:49 AM) berwin22: a number of packages needed to be purged before I could get mysql running. I'll need to reinstall my machine at some point
 
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(10:44:04 AM) Sevein: I would suggest a web-based microservice interface rather than making users deal with that SQL file, I tried once and it is not easy even for developers
 
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(10:44:47 AM) Sevein: ^tt's specially difficult to maintain the chain, don't you think so berwin22?
 
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(10:45:10 AM) berwin22: Yes. would be better to strap an interface on it.
 
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(10:45:44 AM) berwin22: But we wanted some documentation on how to do it without, and doc for the developers making the interface
 
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(10:46:19 AM) Sevein: sounds good, I liked your work
 
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(10:47:03 AM) berwin22: it's a somewhat complicated system, and you tried with no documentation!
 
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(10:47:24 AM) Sevein: totally :)
 
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(10:47:58 AM) berwin22: I think the concepts are relatively simple, but the implementation is a bit of a pain
 
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(10:48:34 AM) Sevein: yeah, the complexity is in the database but the idea is pretty easy, I think Django could be used for that
 
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(10:48:47 AM) Sevein: and provide an initial data set that can be loaded during the installation
 
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(10:48:52 AM) Sevein: (for all the default micro-services)
 
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(10:49:11 AM) berwin22: http://archivematica.org/wiki/index.php?title=Creating_Custom_Workflows_0.8_alpha
 
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(10:49:48 AM) djjuhasz: berwin22: you've got a good voice for voiceover. :)
 
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(10:50:03 AM) berwin22: captain mumbles
 
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(10:50:09 AM) berwin22: I am
 
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(10:50:33 AM) peterVG: ah, I recall your tweet now on this but thought you were talking about Courtney's screencast
 
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(10:50:43 AM) courtney: ouch
 
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(10:50:46 AM) peterVG: which was also v good :-)
 
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(10:50:51 AM) peterVG: just though berwin22 was having a go
 
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(10:51:26 AM) berwin22: twit: "If you like heavy breathing, the word uhm, or technobabble, then I have a video for you!"
 
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(10:51:40 AM) peterVG: so berwin22 priority for dev is making 12.04 switch and then: testing multi-node mysql write?
 
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(10:51:54 AM) berwin22: yes
 
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(10:51:56 AM) peterVG: cool
 
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(10:52:08 AM) epmclellan: I should add that to the roadmap if it's not there
 
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(10:52:14 AM) djjuhasz: berwin22: I don't find the video "mumbly" at all.  There is a bit of a heavy breathing issue though ;)
 
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(10:52:22 AM) peterVG: epmclellan: the heavy breathing?
 
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(10:52:29 AM) peterVG: do we have a .wav for that?
 
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(10:52:34 AM) courtney: value add
 
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(10:52:35 AM) djjuhasz: I think you did pretty well on the "uhm" count
 
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(10:52:48 AM) peterVG: I am the worst for 'uhm's
 
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(10:53:02 AM) mcantelon: Me too. I'm where "uhm"s come to die.
 
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(10:53:03 AM) berwin22: ARTi - how goes the switch to 12.04 packages?
 
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(10:53:08 AM) djjuhasz: no peterVG, I'm sure I have you beat on the "uhm's"
 
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(10:53:17 AM) courtney: question: maybe not a good one - will the 64 bit switch thing have any affect on bare metal install clients?
 
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(10:53:34 AM) Sevein: berwin22: did you see that mysql front-end I posted yesterday night?
 
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(10:53:36 AM) peterVG: only those that don't support 64-bit chips
 
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(10:54:01 AM) berwin22: oh, we were also looking at moving to x64
 
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(10:54:14 AM) ARTi: berwin22: yeah, x64 stuff should be working in 12.04
 
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(10:54:20 AM) peterVG: but any pc bought in the last year should and we've gotten away from the idea of promoting this as a system that runs on old pcs + Ubuntu
 
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(10:54:21 AM) ARTi: was just readpst that was blocking us
 
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(10:54:32 AM) berwin22: I saw. How are you thinking it will be used in archivematica?
 
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(10:54:35 AM) ARTi: berwin22: Ill get some package changes in asap
 
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(10:55:04 AM) berwin22: ARTi - great.
 
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(10:55:19 AM) mcantelon: Sevein: Which MySQL front-end? I missed that...
 
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(10:55:23 AM) Sevein: berwin22: every client should have its own front-end maybe? but I am afraid that would change then way you access to the data in the code therefore it would be a pain to implement it? not sure, I just took a quick view
 
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(10:55:31 AM) Sevein: wait a sec
 
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(10:55:43 AM) Sevein: http://code.google.com/p/vitess/
 
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(10:56:21 AM) berwin22: you'd replace mysql connections with vitess connections. no value added & overhead is my first instinct
 
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(10:56:38 AM) mcantelon: Sevein: Ah, cool... kind of like mysql-proxy.
 
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(10:57:02 AM) Sevein: one vitess connection vs tons of mysql connections
 
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(10:57:20 AM) Sevein: it's ok, just wanted to share it :)
 
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(10:57:22 AM) mcantelon: Sevein: SQL parser!!! Nice.
 
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(10:57:30 AM) berwin22: Each microservice would stil need to establish a vitess connection
 
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(10:57:56 AM) berwin22: though it would be through the API
 
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(10:58:57 AM) berwin22: We'll have another look if we start to have problems again after all the updates
 
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(10:59:08 AM) jonhattan left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).
 
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(10:59:39 AM) Sevein: yeah it's tricky because they are different processes right?
 
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(10:59:40 AM) Sevein: ok
 
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(10:59:41 AM) Sevein: :)
 
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(11:01:17 AM) peterVG: ARTi: what are you working on this week?
 
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(11:04:20 AM) ARTi: 12.04 packages this week, (was working on) offlineimap for sfu, and web4 deploy on cwh
 
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(11:04:35 AM) peterVG: cool
 
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(11:04:53 AM) epmclellan: ARTi helped me make a maildir backup of my gmail for testing
 
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(11:05:06 AM) epmclellan: which I was able to convert to mbox
 
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(11:05:11 AM) ARTi: want to start communicating about our backups as well, sounds like we have some good ideas on where to start.. just need consensus that we are following the right approach
 
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(11:05:30 AM) epmclellan: I think we'll have reasonable consensus after our next visit to SFU
 
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(11:05:35 AM) epmclellan: scheduled for Wednesday
 
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(11:05:51 AM) courtney: i want to go
 
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(11:05:54 AM) epmclellan: ARTi: unless you're not talking about email backups at all...
 
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(11:05:56 AM) ARTi: backups@cwh
 
 
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